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		By: Bill Willingham &#8211; The Sandman Presents: Taller Tales &#171; Fyrefly&#039;s Book Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: jennysbooks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nymeth, that does make sense.  I guess to me, it&#039;s just a question of whether what&#039;s inside their head resonates with me.  My mother and I were talking about this after she read Eleanor Rigby, and she said that she thought it spoke more to my situation than hers.  I think that&#039;s something to consider with books - the character&#039;s actions and ideas don&#039;t have to be similar to mine, for me to engage with them, but it helps if I can see a glimmer of myself in them.

That all sounds terribly self-centered!  But I think it&#039;s (at least partly) true.  If I can&#039;t empathize with a character&#039;s choices or ideas, I can often recognize something in them that&#039;s true of me - struggle against change, feelings of powerlessness, whatever - that makes me interested in what happens to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nymeth, that does make sense.  I guess to me, it&#8217;s just a question of whether what&#8217;s inside their head resonates with me.  My mother and I were talking about this after she read Eleanor Rigby, and she said that she thought it spoke more to my situation than hers.  I think that&#8217;s something to consider with books &#8211; the character&#8217;s actions and ideas don&#8217;t have to be similar to mine, for me to engage with them, but it helps if I can see a glimmer of myself in them.</p>
<p>That all sounds terribly self-centered!  But I think it&#8217;s (at least partly) true.  If I can&#8217;t empathize with a character&#8217;s choices or ideas, I can often recognize something in them that&#8217;s true of me &#8211; struggle against change, feelings of powerlessness, whatever &#8211; that makes me interested in what happens to them.</p>
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		By: Nymeth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can see what you mean about the fragmentation. I felt the same when I read At Death&#039;s Door by Jill Thompson. It didn&#039;t feel like a Sandman book, and the characters didn&#039;t feel like the characters I knew, but I still managed to enjoy it for what it was.

And in the case of Thesally, the art! I just loved the art.

As for your question about characters, I don&#039;t necessarily need to sympathize with them, but to engage with the story I need to understand them at least somewhat, to be able to make sense of their actions, thoughts, etc. Actually, one of my favourite things that fiction does is make me &quot;see inside&quot; the heads of people I wouldn&#039;t normally identify or sympathize with. I hope this makes sense.

PS: Understanding Comics is awesome!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see what you mean about the fragmentation. I felt the same when I read At Death&#8217;s Door by Jill Thompson. It didn&#8217;t feel like a Sandman book, and the characters didn&#8217;t feel like the characters I knew, but I still managed to enjoy it for what it was.</p>
<p>And in the case of Thesally, the art! I just loved the art.</p>
<p>As for your question about characters, I don&#8217;t necessarily need to sympathize with them, but to engage with the story I need to understand them at least somewhat, to be able to make sense of their actions, thoughts, etc. Actually, one of my favourite things that fiction does is make me &#8220;see inside&#8221; the heads of people I wouldn&#8217;t normally identify or sympathize with. I hope this makes sense.</p>
<p>PS: Understanding Comics is awesome!</p>
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		By: jennysbooks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s a book called Understanding Comics by a Scott McCloud.  Someone told me about it a while ago and I have been wanting to read it.

It&#039;s interesting that you don&#039;t like them - I would have thought that being an artist yourself would make graphic novels more interesting to you, not less.  Have you tried other memoirs, since you liked Persepolis so much?  I read Craig Thompson&#039;s Blankets a while ago, and really enjoyed it - he writes about his childhood as a fundamentalist Christian, and his first love, and struggling with his faith.

Also, there&#039;s a gorgeous kids&#039; book called The Invention of Hugo Cabret.  It&#039;s a big fat illustrated novel, so the text is set up like an ordinary book, but there are also these really lovely illustrations.  Sort of a hybrid between a regular book and a graphic novel - maybe that would help to ease you in.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a book called Understanding Comics by a Scott McCloud.  Someone told me about it a while ago and I have been wanting to read it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you don&#8217;t like them &#8211; I would have thought that being an artist yourself would make graphic novels more interesting to you, not less.  Have you tried other memoirs, since you liked Persepolis so much?  I read Craig Thompson&#8217;s Blankets a while ago, and really enjoyed it &#8211; he writes about his childhood as a fundamentalist Christian, and his first love, and struggling with his faith.</p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a gorgeous kids&#8217; book called The Invention of Hugo Cabret.  It&#8217;s a big fat illustrated novel, so the text is set up like an ordinary book, but there are also these really lovely illustrations.  Sort of a hybrid between a regular book and a graphic novel &#8211; maybe that would help to ease you in.  🙂</p>
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		By: boxofbooks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a really, really hard time with graphic novels in general. The only one I&#039;ve read that I liked (and, to be fair, I loved it) was Marjane Satrapi&#039;s &quot;Persepolis&quot;, which is a great story but also made me think about storytelling - especially that whole engagement phenomenon, like you said. It&#039;s such a mysterious thing, how books connect to our imaginations.

So a friend suggested a nonfiction book which theorizes that the graphic form is the quickest and most effective way to capture a person&#039;s imagination, but I can&#039;t remember the title. I think the author was Scott McLoud or McCall?, and it&#039;s a graphic novel (I feel funny calling a nonfiction book a graphic novel), but so far I haven&#039;t come across it and I haven&#039;t see my friend in ages to ask. But I think that&#039;s the one to read. I don&#039;t know if it will make me want to run out and embrace The Sandman series, but I think it&#039;ll be interesting reading. Must....remember....title....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a really, really hard time with graphic novels in general. The only one I&#8217;ve read that I liked (and, to be fair, I loved it) was Marjane Satrapi&#8217;s &#8220;Persepolis&#8221;, which is a great story but also made me think about storytelling &#8211; especially that whole engagement phenomenon, like you said. It&#8217;s such a mysterious thing, how books connect to our imaginations.</p>
<p>So a friend suggested a nonfiction book which theorizes that the graphic form is the quickest and most effective way to capture a person&#8217;s imagination, but I can&#8217;t remember the title. I think the author was Scott McLoud or McCall?, and it&#8217;s a graphic novel (I feel funny calling a nonfiction book a graphic novel), but so far I haven&#8217;t come across it and I haven&#8217;t see my friend in ages to ask. But I think that&#8217;s the one to read. I don&#8217;t know if it will make me want to run out and embrace The Sandman series, but I think it&#8217;ll be interesting reading. Must&#8230;.remember&#8230;.title&#8230;.</p>
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