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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13173&quot;&gt;trapunto&lt;/a&gt;.

Was he meant to be the devil? I was out of sorts with this book from the get-go, and I may not have been giving it my undivided attention, I&#039;m afraid. I remember feeling like it was shades of Diana Wynne Jones&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Time of the Ghost&lt;/i&gt;, which also features a creepy dude in whom a group of sisters is interested, and at the time I didn&#039;t like TTotG, so that didn&#039;t make me love Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary any better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13173">trapunto</a>.</p>
<p>Was he meant to be the devil? I was out of sorts with this book from the get-go, and I may not have been giving it my undivided attention, I&#8217;m afraid. I remember feeling like it was shades of Diana Wynne Jones&#8217;s <i>The Time of the Ghost</i>, which also features a creepy dude in whom a group of sisters is interested, and at the time I didn&#8217;t like TTotG, so that didn&#8217;t make me love Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary any better.</p>
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		By: trapunto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trapunto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just about to recommend this book to someone I think might like it, and was googling to see if any bloggers had read it.  We had such a different take on this.  I saw all the annoying parts (cringed at your mention of wholesale dismissal of the South as racist, which makes me want to appologize for being a yank!), but I thought the rest of it was brilliantly layered.  I thought it was even better than Tam Linn.

Dominic is boring, but I think he&#039;s supposed to be because he&#039;s just a symbol.  Yeah, I wanted a book with a cute mysterious boy who got revealed, but I was kind of impressed by Dean&#039;s toughness in insisting on not giving me what I wanted and writing a book that turned out to be JUST about the girls.  Dominic&#039;s ultimate boringness was meant to say something about the opposite-sex ideals created by sex-and-imagination-crazed adolescent psychology, that eventually get exploded by real exposure to other members of the opposite sex.  Also he wasn&#039;t he meant to be the devil?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just about to recommend this book to someone I think might like it, and was googling to see if any bloggers had read it.  We had such a different take on this.  I saw all the annoying parts (cringed at your mention of wholesale dismissal of the South as racist, which makes me want to appologize for being a yank!), but I thought the rest of it was brilliantly layered.  I thought it was even better than Tam Linn.</p>
<p>Dominic is boring, but I think he&#8217;s supposed to be because he&#8217;s just a symbol.  Yeah, I wanted a book with a cute mysterious boy who got revealed, but I was kind of impressed by Dean&#8217;s toughness in insisting on not giving me what I wanted and writing a book that turned out to be JUST about the girls.  Dominic&#8217;s ultimate boringness was meant to say something about the opposite-sex ideals created by sex-and-imagination-crazed adolescent psychology, that eventually get exploded by real exposure to other members of the opposite sex.  Also he wasn&#8217;t he meant to be the devil?</p>
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		By: Wrapping up 2009 &#171; Jenny&#039;s Books		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wrapping up 2009 &#171; Jenny&#039;s Books]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] out books I didn’t finish, probably Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary, because not only did I dislike it, it felt very self-indulgent, and it made me angry when she was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] out books I didn’t finish, probably Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary, because not only did I dislike it, it felt very self-indulgent, and it made me angry when she was [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13170&quot;&gt;Schatzi&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe I&#039;ll try again with it, too.  I think I paperbackswapped my copy away, so it more or less depends on me finding it cheap at a used bookstore...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13170">Schatzi</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll try again with it, too.  I think I paperbackswapped my copy away, so it more or less depends on me finding it cheap at a used bookstore&#8230;</p>
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		By: Schatzi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schatzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m another of those who started &lt;i&gt;The Secret Country&lt;/i&gt; and put it down. It&#039;s so sad to think of Dean as a one-trick pony; perhaps I should try again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another of those who started <i>The Secret Country</i> and put it down. It&#8217;s so sad to think of Dean as a one-trick pony; perhaps I should try again.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13168&quot;&gt;Schatzi&lt;/a&gt;.

Have you read anything else by her?  I tried reading &lt;em&gt;The Secret Country&lt;/em&gt; right after I read &lt;em&gt;Tam Lin&lt;/em&gt;, thinking, &lt;em&gt;hey, no way to lose here, it&#039;s by the same author who wrote that book I couldn&#039;t put down, plus it sounds just like Narnia!&lt;/em&gt;, and I didn&#039;t even get a quarter of the way through.  After trying &lt;em&gt;Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary&lt;/em&gt;, I came to the conclusion that Pamela Dean is a one-hit wonder.  Oh well, I&#039;ll always have &lt;em&gt;Tam Lin&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2009/04/29/juniper-gentian-and-rosemary-pamela-dean/#comment-13168">Schatzi</a>.</p>
<p>Have you read anything else by her?  I tried reading <em>The Secret Country</em> right after I read <em>Tam Lin</em>, thinking, <em>hey, no way to lose here, it&#8217;s by the same author who wrote that book I couldn&#8217;t put down, plus it sounds just like Narnia!</em>, and I didn&#8217;t even get a quarter of the way through.  After trying <em>Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary</em>, I came to the conclusion that Pamela Dean is a one-hit wonder.  Oh well, I&#8217;ll always have <em>Tam Lin</em>.</p>
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		By: Schatzi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schatzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wanted to like this book a lot because I just love Tam Lin, but it did nothing for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to like this book a lot because I just love Tam Lin, but it did nothing for me.</p>
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		By: jennysbooks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jennysbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried one called The Secret Country and couldn&#039;t get on with it at all.  Ordinarily I love books where a set of children find a secret country, but I put this one down after about forty pages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried one called The Secret Country and couldn&#8217;t get on with it at all.  Ordinarily I love books where a set of children find a secret country, but I put this one down after about forty pages.</p>
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		By: Jeane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, I flubbed up there. For some reason I was thinking Dean wrote them both- but Fire Hemlock was Dianna Wynne Jones! Now I&#039;m trying to think if I&#039;ve read &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; other Pamela Dean and I think the answer is no.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I flubbed up there. For some reason I was thinking Dean wrote them both- but Fire Hemlock was Dianna Wynne Jones! Now I&#8217;m trying to think if I&#8217;ve read <i>any</i> other Pamela Dean and I think the answer is no.</p>
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		By: jennysbooks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jennysbooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So far, Fire and Hemlock is way the best adaptation of Tam Lin I&#039;ve read, and although I feel like Pamela Dean&#039;s Tam Lin is sort of snotty and elitist (I hate it how they sneer at Christina for not recognizing the passages of Shakespeare they quote), I thought it was a cool, interesting adaptation of the ballad.

But there&#039;s just no excuse for how unpleasant everyone was in Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary.  If you do read it, tell me what you think - I&#039;m afraid I may have been too hard on all the characters. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, Fire and Hemlock is way the best adaptation of Tam Lin I&#8217;ve read, and although I feel like Pamela Dean&#8217;s Tam Lin is sort of snotty and elitist (I hate it how they sneer at Christina for not recognizing the passages of Shakespeare they quote), I thought it was a cool, interesting adaptation of the ballad.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s just no excuse for how unpleasant everyone was in Juniper, Gentian, and Rosemary.  If you do read it, tell me what you think &#8211; I&#8217;m afraid I may have been too hard on all the characters. 🙂</p>
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