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		By: The Lives (and Deaths) of Christopher Chant &#124; Tales of the Marvelous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Lives (and Deaths) of Christopher Chant &#124; Tales of the Marvelous]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Bookwyrme		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bookwyrme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Popping by to post here because I&#039;m currently in the middle of Charmed Life &#038; feeling very cross with Christopher-Chrestomanci, who has just boxed Cat&#039;s ears for not stopping Gwendolin--after spending quite some time not-stopping Gwendolin himself.

I know later he&#039;s going to be all &quot;We were hoping you would trust us.&quot;

Having just finished Lives of Christopher Chant wherein he himself had to deal with a less-than-helpful mentor, I&#039;m wondering why/how he expects his own behavior to lead to any good results in this case.

I&#039;m not used to being cross with Chrestomanci!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popping by to post here because I&#8217;m currently in the middle of Charmed Life &amp; feeling very cross with Christopher-Chrestomanci, who has just boxed Cat&#8217;s ears for not stopping Gwendolin&#8211;after spending quite some time not-stopping Gwendolin himself.</p>
<p>I know later he&#8217;s going to be all &#8220;We were hoping you would trust us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having just finished Lives of Christopher Chant wherein he himself had to deal with a less-than-helpful mentor, I&#8217;m wondering why/how he expects his own behavior to lead to any good results in this case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not used to being cross with Chrestomanci!</p>
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		By: Diana Wynne Jones: A Collection of Mini Reviews &#124; Iris on Books		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana Wynne Jones: A Collection of Mini Reviews &#124; Iris on Books]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Book Blog, The Written World, Books Love Me, Buried in Print, arch thinking, Dogear Diary, Jenny&#8217;s Books, Chachic&#8217;s Book Nook, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Book Blog, The Written World, Books Love Me, Buried in Print, arch thinking, Dogear Diary, Jenny&#8217;s Books, Chachic&#8217;s Book Nook, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7619&quot;&gt;litlove&lt;/a&gt;.

A Sudden Wild Magic is one of those books that it took me a lot of tries to start enjoying.  It&#039;s one of the few books she wrote that&#039;s clearly for grown-ups, but somehow it&#039;s still a good bit sillier than a lot of her books for kids.  I mean that she&#039;s being deliberately a bit silly, where she&#039;s often more serious in her books for younger people.  It&#039;s rather like Deep Secret - or at least, when I finally came to like it, it was the time I read it straight away after reading Deep Secret.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7619">litlove</a>.</p>
<p>A Sudden Wild Magic is one of those books that it took me a lot of tries to start enjoying.  It&#8217;s one of the few books she wrote that&#8217;s clearly for grown-ups, but somehow it&#8217;s still a good bit sillier than a lot of her books for kids.  I mean that she&#8217;s being deliberately a bit silly, where she&#8217;s often more serious in her books for younger people.  It&#8217;s rather like Deep Secret &#8211; or at least, when I finally came to like it, it was the time I read it straight away after reading Deep Secret.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 17:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7612&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I know what you mean.  The books that were like a cymbal-crash to read the first time are the ones that often stick with me most, even when I can see that other books may be technically better.  The Homeward Bounders may be one of my favorites too, now you mention it - always makes me cry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7612">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>I know what you mean.  The books that were like a cymbal-crash to read the first time are the ones that often stick with me most, even when I can see that other books may be technically better.  The Homeward Bounders may be one of my favorites too, now you mention it &#8211; always makes me cry!</p>
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		By: litlove		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[litlove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lol! Well I&#039;m very glad I read the review, and I still want to read these books, as well as lots of others by DWJ, and when my son was little he was rather fond of variety and so the ever changing landscape of her novels was a good place to be. We adored Archer&#039;s Goon (although I have never quite figured out the ending, not that it matters) and The Ogre Downstairs and another called, umm, Wilkin&#039;s Tooth or something similar. Oh and Howl&#039;s Moving Castle we loved, too. In fact just writing this makes me feel I should read something by her now. What did you think of A Sudden Wild Magic? I think I have that somewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol! Well I&#8217;m very glad I read the review, and I still want to read these books, as well as lots of others by DWJ, and when my son was little he was rather fond of variety and so the ever changing landscape of her novels was a good place to be. We adored Archer&#8217;s Goon (although I have never quite figured out the ending, not that it matters) and The Ogre Downstairs and another called, umm, Wilkin&#8217;s Tooth or something similar. Oh and Howl&#8217;s Moving Castle we loved, too. In fact just writing this makes me feel I should read something by her now. What did you think of A Sudden Wild Magic? I think I have that somewhere.</p>
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		By: trapunto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trapunto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7612&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Hard.  It&#039;s a matter of the ones I got the most excited about the first time I read them, and the ones I think the most about now, and say, &quot;wow, that was a good book.&quot;  The first-read memories get mixed up with the lingering ones.  I&#039;ll say Homeward Bounders, Charmed Life, Lives of Christopher Chant, Howl&#039;s Moving Castle, and Cart and Cwidder (very first DWJ I read), if pressed.  I didn&#039;t like the two newer Dalemark books as well as the older two.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7612">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>Hard.  It&#8217;s a matter of the ones I got the most excited about the first time I read them, and the ones I think the most about now, and say, &#8220;wow, that was a good book.&#8221;  The first-read memories get mixed up with the lingering ones.  I&#8217;ll say Homeward Bounders, Charmed Life, Lives of Christopher Chant, Howl&#8217;s Moving Castle, and Cart and Cwidder (very first DWJ I read), if pressed.  I didn&#8217;t like the two newer Dalemark books as well as the older two.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7604&quot;&gt;Anastasia&lt;/a&gt;.

Okay, see, I know the Archer&#039;s Goon parents do some useful things, so useless isn&#039;t a good adjective.  But they aren&#039;t very good parents!  Quentin is totally irresponsible - who stops paying taxes?? - and Catriona leans far too heavily on Howard to take care of Awful.  I hate it when she tells him that he&#039;s the one she relies on because she can&#039;t depend on Quentin.  They&#039;re better than the average, certainly.  DWJ apparently had fairly uninterested parents that wouldn&#039;t give them any books, so there&#039;s certainly a good explanation for why she writes parents this way.

What didn&#039;t you like about Conrad&#039;s Fate?  I thought it was so great to see Christopher at a halfway point between his young self and his scary grown-up self.  Plus, I liked all the stuff about how to be a servant.  The magic part of the plotline wasn&#039;t as good as some of DWJ&#039;s other books, but I thought the rest of the book was strong enough that it didn&#039;t bother me.  Merlin Conspiracy is not a favorite of mine.  I like the elephant though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7604">Anastasia</a>.</p>
<p>Okay, see, I know the Archer&#8217;s Goon parents do some useful things, so useless isn&#8217;t a good adjective.  But they aren&#8217;t very good parents!  Quentin is totally irresponsible &#8211; who stops paying taxes?? &#8211; and Catriona leans far too heavily on Howard to take care of Awful.  I hate it when she tells him that he&#8217;s the one she relies on because she can&#8217;t depend on Quentin.  They&#8217;re better than the average, certainly.  DWJ apparently had fairly uninterested parents that wouldn&#8217;t give them any books, so there&#8217;s certainly a good explanation for why she writes parents this way.</p>
<p>What didn&#8217;t you like about Conrad&#8217;s Fate?  I thought it was so great to see Christopher at a halfway point between his young self and his scary grown-up self.  Plus, I liked all the stuff about how to be a servant.  The magic part of the plotline wasn&#8217;t as good as some of DWJ&#8217;s other books, but I thought the rest of the book was strong enough that it didn&#8217;t bother me.  Merlin Conspiracy is not a favorite of mine.  I like the elephant though!</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7605&quot;&gt;Anastasia&lt;/a&gt;.

Haha, I love arguing the relative merits of Diana Wynne Jones&#039;s books too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7605">Anastasia</a>.</p>
<p>Haha, I love arguing the relative merits of Diana Wynne Jones&#8217;s books too!</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7606&quot;&gt;Lightheaded&lt;/a&gt;.

I suppose it was just that I never knew what to expect, but I still developed expectations going in.  I loved Castle in the Air the first time though!  Abdullah was so sweet!

Moril is from the Dalemark Quartet - far from my favorites.  I&#039;m going to read them again anyway, just because it&#039;s been a while, but they&#039;re definitely not her best effort.  The Dark Lord of Derkholm, on the other hand, is great.  Took me several tries but I thoroughly love it now (and the sequel).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/01/28/chrestomanci-chrestomanci-chrestomanci/#comment-7606">Lightheaded</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose it was just that I never knew what to expect, but I still developed expectations going in.  I loved Castle in the Air the first time though!  Abdullah was so sweet!</p>
<p>Moril is from the Dalemark Quartet &#8211; far from my favorites.  I&#8217;m going to read them again anyway, just because it&#8217;s been a while, but they&#8217;re definitely not her best effort.  The Dark Lord of Derkholm, on the other hand, is great.  Took me several tries but I thoroughly love it now (and the sequel).</p>
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