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		By: Jenny		</title>
		<link>https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10261&quot;&gt;rebeccareid&lt;/a&gt;.

I definitely am with you! The Iliad wasn&#039;t my favorite the last time I read it, but I had to read it as an assignment for class, and as well I did not have Fagles last time. I&#039;m planning to reread it later on this year. :)]]></description>
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<p>I definitely am with you! The Iliad wasn&#8217;t my favorite the last time I read it, but I had to read it as an assignment for class, and as well I did not have Fagles last time. I&#8217;m planning to reread it later on this year. 🙂</p>
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		By: rebeccareid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rebeccareid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read this post a while ago but I guess I never responded then. This is a seriously awesome post. I have LOVED Homer and it&#039;s obvious you&#039;re with me on that! The Iliad is my favorite but Odyssey wasn&#039;t bad either. I have not read Aeneid at all yet, but I&#039;m glad to hear you are such a fan of that too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this post a while ago but I guess I never responded then. This is a seriously awesome post. I have LOVED Homer and it&#8217;s obvious you&#8217;re with me on that! The Iliad is my favorite but Odyssey wasn&#8217;t bad either. I have not read Aeneid at all yet, but I&#8217;m glad to hear you are such a fan of that too.</p>
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		By: Schatzi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schatzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10258&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Fights like a man? oh my, I love her! I once wrote a paper about how H&#038;A were the personification of CS Lewis&#039; Four Loves. I don&#039;t have any idea what I said, though, I think I just wanted to use Lewis. 

Yeah, in the steam tunnels there is a graffito that&#039;s the first verse of the Iliad in the original Greek, and Janet asks Robin (I think), to read it. When someone asks for it in English, he recites Chapman&#039;s Homer. I fell in love with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10258">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>Fights like a man? oh my, I love her! I once wrote a paper about how H&amp;A were the personification of CS Lewis&#8217; Four Loves. I don&#8217;t have any idea what I said, though, I think I just wanted to use Lewis. </p>
<p>Yeah, in the steam tunnels there is a graffito that&#8217;s the first verse of the Iliad in the original Greek, and Janet asks Robin (I think), to read it. When someone asks for it in English, he recites Chapman&#8217;s Homer. I fell in love with it.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10257&quot;&gt;Vishy&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I hope you like Latin! Eight years isn&#039;t as impressive as it sounds, really - three of them were in middle school, which took very very little effort. But I just loved it. It&#039;s so great and fun! Do come back here &#038; tell me you (hopefully) liked it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10257">Vishy</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I hope you like Latin! Eight years isn&#8217;t as impressive as it sounds, really &#8211; three of them were in middle school, which took very very little effort. But I just loved it. It&#8217;s so great and fun! Do come back here &amp; tell me you (hopefully) liked it.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10252&quot;&gt;Schatzi&lt;/a&gt;.

Does Pamela Dean mention Chapman? I can&#039;t remember her doing.

I am in strong support of your right-minded opinion of Hector. Hector! (And Andromache!)]]></description>
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<p>Does Pamela Dean mention Chapman? I can&#8217;t remember her doing.</p>
<p>I am in strong support of your right-minded opinion of Hector. Hector! (And Andromache!)</p>
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		By: Vishy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vishy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved reading your post! I have heard that Lattimore&#039;s translation is the best and from your post I am getting to know that Fagles&#039;s translation is better than Lattimore&#039;s :) I will take your &#039;expert-view&#039; on it :) I have a translation by Allen Mandelbaum, and the first passage in that reads : 

&quot;Muse, tell me of the man of many wiles,
the man who wandered many paths of exile
after he sacked Troy&#039;s sacred citadel.
He saw the cities--mapped the minds--of many;
and on the sea, his spirit suffered every
adversity--to keep his life intact,
to bring his comrades back.&quot;

It is amazing to know that you studied Latin for eight years! That is awesome - Hats off to you :) I tried studying Ancient Greek last year, on my own, but found it extremely tough and have postponed it for a while. Am trying to learn some elementary Latin this year, and it is looking better :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading your post! I have heard that Lattimore&#8217;s translation is the best and from your post I am getting to know that Fagles&#8217;s translation is better than Lattimore&#8217;s 🙂 I will take your &#8216;expert-view&#8217; on it 🙂 I have a translation by Allen Mandelbaum, and the first passage in that reads : </p>
<p>&#8220;Muse, tell me of the man of many wiles,<br />
the man who wandered many paths of exile<br />
after he sacked Troy&#8217;s sacred citadel.<br />
He saw the cities&#8211;mapped the minds&#8211;of many;<br />
and on the sea, his spirit suffered every<br />
adversity&#8211;to keep his life intact,<br />
to bring his comrades back.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is amazing to know that you studied Latin for eight years! That is awesome &#8211; Hats off to you 🙂 I tried studying Ancient Greek last year, on my own, but found it extremely tough and have postponed it for a while. Am trying to learn some elementary Latin this year, and it is looking better 🙂</p>
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		By: trapunto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trapunto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10231&quot;&gt;Jeanne&lt;/a&gt;.

I went *on* him from that film.   It was the first time I&#039;d seen him act--as opposed exhibiting his profile to the camera while nocking arrows.  Poor boy.  Nice to know he can.]]></description>
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<p>I went *on* him from that film.   It was the first time I&#8217;d seen him act&#8211;as opposed exhibiting his profile to the camera while nocking arrows.  Poor boy.  Nice to know he can.</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10236&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I had a pretty rubbish teacher myself, too, and were it not for your post it never would have occurred to me to reread The Odyssey.  Now I find myself glancing at my TBR pile and imagining it in the stack . . . somewhere near the top . . . :)]]></description>
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<p>I had a pretty rubbish teacher myself, too, and were it not for your post it never would have occurred to me to reread The Odyssey.  Now I find myself glancing at my TBR pile and imagining it in the stack . . . somewhere near the top . . . 🙂</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10251&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Ugh, that sounds horrible :(  I do not function well this time of year myself, so I am full of sympathy for you.]]></description>
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<p>Ugh, that sounds horrible 🙁  I do not function well this time of year myself, so I am full of sympathy for you.</p>
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		By: Erin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/06/30/fagless-odyssey-divided-loyalties-in-the-first-quarter/#comment-10247&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve always been a bit of a mythology geek, so that wasn&#039;t the hard part. Remembering to focus on the text and not what I knew of other versions and re-writes was tricky though.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve always been a bit of a mythology geek, so that wasn&#8217;t the hard part. Remembering to focus on the text and not what I knew of other versions and re-writes was tricky though.</p>
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