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		By: Shanra		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10979&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope you&#039;ll manage to pay attention to it and find it a fun experience to do! ^-^]]></description>
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<p>I hope you&#8217;ll manage to pay attention to it and find it a fun experience to do! ^-^</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10979&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s right, that&#039;s right, I remember! You like them to be conversational--which is certainly true of Tanaqui, so your theory holds true in this case. I forgot! I was going to pay attention to that! #makesnote]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10979">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, that&#8217;s right, I remember! You like them to be conversational&#8211;which is certainly true of Tanaqui, so your theory holds true in this case. I forgot! I was going to pay attention to that! #makesnote</p>
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		By: Shanra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10979&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I suppose &#039;contrived&#039; is a way of putting it, yes. I &lt;i&gt;love&lt;/i&gt; being close to the characters, but most of the first person narratives I encounter manages to push me away from them. Third person limited allows me to get just as close to a character, if not closer.

&lt;a href=&#039;http://libritouches.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/on-first-person/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; are some of my thoughts on it. You&#039;ve read them ages ago, though. ^-^ 

Most all first person narratives I&#039;ve read fail to deliver that sense of inclusion. It just reads like third person that&#039;s been edited to resemble first person.

First person narratives can be some of the most powerful, immersive, beautiful, &lt;i&gt;amazing&lt;/i&gt; povs that ever could be writ and, well, most first person narratives I&#039;ve read take one look at what they could be and run screaming in the other direction. It&#039;s such a shame, especially when a first person story has promise.

It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t/can&#039;t enjoy first person narratives - I can and I do - but... for me the fact that a book is written in first person isn&#039;t an automagical way to get close to a character. I used to think that maybe that lack of a desire for closeness was my issue with the pov, but it&#039;s not. It actually tends to put up a barrier and keep me from connecting to the narrator.

One day I&#039;ll have figured out all my dos and don&#039;ts for first person... ^-^]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10979">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose &#8216;contrived&#8217; is a way of putting it, yes. I <i>love</i> being close to the characters, but most of the first person narratives I encounter manages to push me away from them. Third person limited allows me to get just as close to a character, if not closer.</p>
<p><a href='http://libritouches.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/on-first-person/' rel="nofollow">Here</a> are some of my thoughts on it. You&#8217;ve read them ages ago, though. ^-^ </p>
<p>Most all first person narratives I&#8217;ve read fail to deliver that sense of inclusion. It just reads like third person that&#8217;s been edited to resemble first person.</p>
<p>First person narratives can be some of the most powerful, immersive, beautiful, <i>amazing</i> povs that ever could be writ and, well, most first person narratives I&#8217;ve read take one look at what they could be and run screaming in the other direction. It&#8217;s such a shame, especially when a first person story has promise.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t/can&#8217;t enjoy first person narratives &#8211; I can and I do &#8211; but&#8230; for me the fact that a book is written in first person isn&#8217;t an automagical way to get close to a character. I used to think that maybe that lack of a desire for closeness was my issue with the pov, but it&#8217;s not. It actually tends to put up a barrier and keep me from connecting to the narrator.</p>
<p>One day I&#8217;ll have figured out all my dos and don&#8217;ts for first person&#8230; ^-^</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10976&quot;&gt;Trapunto&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s the way the story gets told, through the weaving. I thought that was beautifully done.]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s the way the story gets told, through the weaving. I thought that was beautifully done.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10986&quot;&gt;Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t, I don&#039;t. I only used too. I remember not liking it so much, but this reread I found it to be the best of the four, by a pretty solid margin. I never warmed to Robin, but I felt really fond of all the other siblings.]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t. I only used too. I remember not liking it so much, but this reread I found it to be the best of the four, by a pretty solid margin. I never warmed to Robin, but I felt really fond of all the other siblings.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10985&quot;&gt;Jeanne&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s why I&#039;m always excited when she writes sequels: they focus on different characters to the originals, so we get to see those people in their lives, &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; we get to see the original characters from a new angle. Fun!]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s why I&#8217;m always excited when she writes sequels: they focus on different characters to the originals, so we get to see those people in their lives, <i>and</i> we get to see the original characters from a new angle. Fun!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 10:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that you find The Spellcoats the weakest of the quartet - for me, it was only with The Spellcoats that it really clicked with me and I went from my standard &#039;I love this because it&#039;s DWJ and it&#039;s awesome&#039; to &#039;Oh my goodness I really love this because it&#039;s AWESOME&#039;, which are kind of my two levels of DWJ love.   I enjoyed Cart &#038; Cwidder and Drowned Ammet a lot, but it was when she suddenly expanded the world with The Spellcoats and then it all came to glorious fruition in The Crown of Dalemark that I really adored the quartet as a whole.   Although I do concede that it took me a while to get my head into Spellcoats space :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you find The Spellcoats the weakest of the quartet &#8211; for me, it was only with The Spellcoats that it really clicked with me and I went from my standard &#8216;I love this because it&#8217;s DWJ and it&#8217;s awesome&#8217; to &#8216;Oh my goodness I really love this because it&#8217;s AWESOME&#8217;, which are kind of my two levels of DWJ love.   I enjoyed Cart &amp; Cwidder and Drowned Ammet a lot, but it was when she suddenly expanded the world with The Spellcoats and then it all came to glorious fruition in The Crown of Dalemark that I really adored the quartet as a whole.   Although I do concede that it took me a while to get my head into Spellcoats space 🙂</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love what you say about feeling that the characters have a life beyond the story, and you wish you were in on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what you say about feeling that the characters have a life beyond the story, and you wish you were in on it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10978&quot;&gt;Bookwyrme&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, try them again, but be prepared to be disappointed in The Crown of Dalemark. I was a little crushed at how anticlimactic I found it, and how mean Hildy became. It took me a little while to get ahold of it, so I was anticipating it enormously, and then I felt let down when I did read it.]]></description>
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<p>Yes, try them again, but be prepared to be disappointed in The Crown of Dalemark. I was a little crushed at how anticlimactic I found it, and how mean Hildy became. It took me a little while to get ahold of it, so I was anticipating it enormously, and then I felt let down when I did read it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/08/05/the-dalemark-quartet-part-2/#comment-10977&quot;&gt;Trapunto&lt;/a&gt;.

 I want to say it was Moril. But it wasn&#039;t because it was a proper battle, it was because he rearranged all the land with his cwidder after the horse got shot.  So I didn&#039;t mind it. I think I would probably throw up after a battle myself.

I haven&#039;t read enough Ursula K. Le Guin to speak to that, but from the one book of hers I have read, I can see the similarity.]]></description>
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<p> I want to say it was Moril. But it wasn&#8217;t because it was a proper battle, it was because he rearranged all the land with his cwidder after the horse got shot.  So I didn&#8217;t mind it. I think I would probably throw up after a battle myself.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read enough Ursula K. Le Guin to speak to that, but from the one book of hers I have read, I can see the similarity.</p>
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