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		By: Wrapping up 2010 &#171; Jenny&#039;s Books		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] have read a ton of superb nonfiction this year. Contested Will, Up Against the Wall, Watching the English, The Unlikely Disciple, and Wartime were all strong contenders. For [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] have read a ton of superb nonfiction this year. Contested Will, Up Against the Wall, Watching the English, The Unlikely Disciple, and Wartime were all strong contenders. For [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12078&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Yup, I think he kind of admired Baldwin but hated him for being a homosexual. Basically Baldwin could have made an exemplary black man but sleeping with white men made him a race traitor and submitting to white men is the ultimate transgression (esp. with regard to Black Nationalism). The language in Soul on ice is really homosocial/-erotic though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12078">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>Yup, I think he kind of admired Baldwin but hated him for being a homosexual. Basically Baldwin could have made an exemplary black man but sleeping with white men made him a race traitor and submitting to white men is the ultimate transgression (esp. with regard to Black Nationalism). The language in Soul on ice is really homosocial/-erotic though.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12076&quot;&gt;bakersdaughterwrites&lt;/a&gt;.

I love the Wilde quote too. It&#039;s so expressive and sounds exactly like how it really was.]]></description>
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<p>I love the Wilde quote too. It&#8217;s so expressive and sounds exactly like how it really was.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12075&quot;&gt;Memory&lt;/a&gt;.

I love nonfiction! Because I like feeling like I have a good grip on things, and that the book I&#039;m reading is telling me the Truth, not just the Wikipedia truth. :p But although I like knowing things, I cannot be doing with too much nonfiction at once. My brain gets hungry for stories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12075">Memory</a>.</p>
<p>I love nonfiction! Because I like feeling like I have a good grip on things, and that the book I&#8217;m reading is telling me the Truth, not just the Wikipedia truth. :p But although I like knowing things, I cannot be doing with too much nonfiction at once. My brain gets hungry for stories.</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12074&quot;&gt;Bina&lt;/a&gt;.

I know! Ick! Well, I know about the idea of raping white women for revenge - what did he say about Baldwin and homosexuality? I assume he was against them?]]></description>
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<p>I know! Ick! Well, I know about the idea of raping white women for revenge &#8211; what did he say about Baldwin and homosexuality? I assume he was against them?</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2010/10/10/learning-about-the-black-panthers/#comment-12073&quot;&gt;Mumsy&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed? I don&#039;t really know that much about him but everything I know about him is nice.]]></description>
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<p>Indeed? I don&#8217;t really know that much about him but everything I know about him is nice.</p>
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		By: bakersdaughterwrites		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How wonderful to see an entire post devoted to panthers (though I prefer domesticated cats myself.) Love that Oscar Wilde quote!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How wonderful to see an entire post devoted to panthers (though I prefer domesticated cats myself.) Love that Oscar Wilde quote!</p>
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		By: Memory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, Jenny. Your first paragraph totally puts me in mind of Chaucer, in all the best ways.

I didn&#039;t learn about the Black Panthers in school, since we had Canadian History rather than American History, but they sound like a complex and interesting group. Also, your nonfiction reviews always make me wish I read more of the stuff. I mostly know about things because I&#039;ve read fiction that somehow dealt with them, but I have to take that with a grain of salt because authors often wiggle true stories around until they get something that fits their plot. I know nonfiction writers also fudge facts to support their theses, but  I figure it&#039;s easier to tell when they&#039;re doing it because they have to provide references and the like. Also, they usually aren&#039;t the only person who&#039;s ever written about the topic, so I can collect contrasting viewpoints from other sources.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Jenny. Your first paragraph totally puts me in mind of Chaucer, in all the best ways.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t learn about the Black Panthers in school, since we had Canadian History rather than American History, but they sound like a complex and interesting group. Also, your nonfiction reviews always make me wish I read more of the stuff. I mostly know about things because I&#8217;ve read fiction that somehow dealt with them, but I have to take that with a grain of salt because authors often wiggle true stories around until they get something that fits their plot. I know nonfiction writers also fudge facts to support their theses, but  I figure it&#8217;s easier to tell when they&#8217;re doing it because they have to provide references and the like. Also, they usually aren&#8217;t the only person who&#8217;s ever written about the topic, so I can collect contrasting viewpoints from other sources.</p>
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		By: Bina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The second one sounds really good, condolences on your experience with the other one!

I only really learned about the Black Panthers in uni and I think we covered both the violence and their reasons, so both sides, well. Eldridge Cleaver was nuts, I read bits of Soul on Ice for a paper and he had problems! Especially with Baldwin and homosexuality and his idea about raping white women as revenge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second one sounds really good, condolences on your experience with the other one!</p>
<p>I only really learned about the Black Panthers in uni and I think we covered both the violence and their reasons, so both sides, well. Eldridge Cleaver was nuts, I read bits of Soul on Ice for a paper and he had problems! Especially with Baldwin and homosexuality and his idea about raping white women as revenge.</p>
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		By: Mumsy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dislike violent rhetoric, no matter who is using it and for what purpose...it always seems to inspire some wackjob to act on it.  And Paul Robeson...kind of a mixed bag; his good judgment was at least questionable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dislike violent rhetoric, no matter who is using it and for what purpose&#8230;it always seems to inspire some wackjob to act on it.  And Paul Robeson&#8230;kind of a mixed bag; his good judgment was at least questionable.</p>
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