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		By: Memory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 18:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve given me such &lt;i&gt;longing&lt;/i&gt; for the theatre. It&#039;s been more than a year since I saw a play. I&#039;ve got tickets for Wicked in August, but that&#039;s much too far away. I must find something to see sooner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve given me such <i>longing</i> for the theatre. It&#8217;s been more than a year since I saw a play. I&#8217;ve got tickets for Wicked in August, but that&#8217;s much too far away. I must find something to see sooner.</p>
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		By: Jeanne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 14:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5335&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

I have purchased groundling tickets for the Globe for July 24, to see All&#039;s Well That Ends Well.  What decided me is that the Kevin Spacey Richard III is scheduled to come to NYC next January, and I&#039;m betting it might still be there when I might get to NYC in February.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5335">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>I have purchased groundling tickets for the Globe for July 24, to see All&#8217;s Well That Ends Well.  What decided me is that the Kevin Spacey Richard III is scheduled to come to NYC next January, and I&#8217;m betting it might still be there when I might get to NYC in February.</p>
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		By: Books are my Boyfriends		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 20:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I LOVE that you review plays on this blog. I&#039;m a HUGE Arcadia nerd, I think Septimus and Thomasina have one of the sexiest and engaging relationships in the pantheon of modern plays.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE that you review plays on this blog. I&#8217;m a HUGE Arcadia nerd, I think Septimus and Thomasina have one of the sexiest and engaging relationships in the pantheon of modern plays.</p>
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		By: gaskella		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 09:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw the original production at the National Theatre in London in 1993 (it was Rufus Sewell&#039;s breakthrough role, before Middlemarch on TV) and he was lovely. Bill Nighy and Felicity Kendal were fab too.  Sadly I remember loving it, but can&#039;t remember much about the plot sadly.  You&#039;ve made me desperate to look it up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the original production at the National Theatre in London in 1993 (it was Rufus Sewell&#8217;s breakthrough role, before Middlemarch on TV) and he was lovely. Bill Nighy and Felicity Kendal were fab too.  Sadly I remember loving it, but can&#8217;t remember much about the plot sadly.  You&#8217;ve made me desperate to look it up.</p>
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		By: Review: Translations, Brian Friel &#171; Jenny&#039;s Books		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Review: Translations, Brian Friel &#171; Jenny&#039;s Books]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 10:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Tom Stoppard&#8217;s description of Arcadia which, by the way, may not have mentioned this yet, I saw. Twice!!). It is about a small town in Ireland in the 1970s, and the British officers who come to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Tom Stoppard&#8217;s description of Arcadia which, by the way, may not have mentioned this yet, I saw. Twice!!). It is about a small town in Ireland in the 1970s, and the British officers who come to [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ela		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 13:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Arcadia was revived in London in 2009 and I meant to see it... but never got around to it. I love the play, and would love to see it filmed - I think it would work quite well as cinema. I can&#039;t imagine how one would play Thomasina as shrill - she&#039;s so bright, I&#039;d think thoughtful would be a better way to play her.

(I notice from Wikipedia that Crudup played Septimus in the first Broadway production of the play)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arcadia was revived in London in 2009 and I meant to see it&#8230; but never got around to it. I love the play, and would love to see it filmed &#8211; I think it would work quite well as cinema. I can&#8217;t imagine how one would play Thomasina as shrill &#8211; she&#8217;s so bright, I&#8217;d think thoughtful would be a better way to play her.</p>
<p>(I notice from Wikipedia that Crudup played Septimus in the first Broadway production of the play)</p>
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		By: Jenny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 01:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5351&quot;&gt;Nymeth&lt;/a&gt;.

It was in Manchester? Was it the production with Tom Stoppard&#039;s son in it? I&#039;m sad for you that you didn&#039;t see it too!]]></description>
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<p>It was in Manchester? Was it the production with Tom Stoppard&#8217;s son in it? I&#8217;m sad for you that you didn&#8217;t see it too!</p>
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		By: Tracy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5340&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

Macbeth is my favourite Shakespeare play, and I&#039;ve always wanted to watch it performed.

I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever met anyone from Stratford, male or female,  but I&#039;ll bear that in mind!]]></description>
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<p>Macbeth is my favourite Shakespeare play, and I&#8217;ve always wanted to watch it performed.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever met anyone from Stratford, male or female,  but I&#8217;ll bear that in mind!</p>
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		By: Nymeth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 10:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I so so regret not having gone to see this when it was on here last September! Especially as I did see A Christmas Carol and A Doll&#039;s House by the same company and they were both excellent. I bet their Arcadia was amazing too. I know I can always read it, but it&#039;s not the same :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so so regret not having gone to see this when it was on here last September! Especially as I did see A Christmas Carol and A Doll&#8217;s House by the same company and they were both excellent. I bet their Arcadia was amazing too. I know I can always read it, but it&#8217;s not the same 🙁</p>
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		By: Katy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 00:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5345&quot;&gt;Jenny&lt;/a&gt;.

If you are planning to become obsessed with Kipling, I would recommend starting with Puck of Pook&#039;s Hill and Rewards and Fairies, not necessarily in that order.  Puck of Pook&#039;s Hill is basically children&#039;s time-slip fantasy - it&#039;s a collection of historical stories, mostly realistic, set in a magical modern-day frame.  Rewards and Fairies is the sequel, but it&#039;s not really for children, it only pretends to be.  That&#039;s the one I started with, when I was eleven, and it sucked me in right away.  

Or you could start with Kim, which I think is Kipling&#039;s best work, but I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s the best place to start or not.

Or there&#039;s the Jungle Book and the Second Jungle Book - as with Puck of Pook&#039;s Hill / Rewards and Fairies, the second one is more sophisticated, and I think better.  Basically, I seem to be saying: start with his books for and about children.  That&#039;s the way I met Kipling, and it seems to have worked.

His stories for adults are a mixed bag, and some of them are very, very good, but if you read only one I think it should be &quot;The Gardener.&quot;

Just make sure that you avoid a novel called The Light That Failed.  I wouldn&#039;t really recommend starting with the poems, either.  Some of them are actually good, but I wouldn&#039;t say that poetry was Kipling&#039;s strength as a writer.  The poems don&#039;t show him at his most likable, either - I think there was something about the process of fiction writing, at least when he was genuinely invested in it, that softened and tempered the harsher aspects of his personality.

I&#039;m sorry about writing such a long response, but it always makes me ridiculously happy when people are willing to give Kipling a chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2011/04/27/arcadia-tom-stoppard-the-play/#comment-5345">Jenny</a>.</p>
<p>If you are planning to become obsessed with Kipling, I would recommend starting with Puck of Pook&#8217;s Hill and Rewards and Fairies, not necessarily in that order.  Puck of Pook&#8217;s Hill is basically children&#8217;s time-slip fantasy &#8211; it&#8217;s a collection of historical stories, mostly realistic, set in a magical modern-day frame.  Rewards and Fairies is the sequel, but it&#8217;s not really for children, it only pretends to be.  That&#8217;s the one I started with, when I was eleven, and it sucked me in right away.  </p>
<p>Or you could start with Kim, which I think is Kipling&#8217;s best work, but I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s the best place to start or not.</p>
<p>Or there&#8217;s the Jungle Book and the Second Jungle Book &#8211; as with Puck of Pook&#8217;s Hill / Rewards and Fairies, the second one is more sophisticated, and I think better.  Basically, I seem to be saying: start with his books for and about children.  That&#8217;s the way I met Kipling, and it seems to have worked.</p>
<p>His stories for adults are a mixed bag, and some of them are very, very good, but if you read only one I think it should be &#8220;The Gardener.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just make sure that you avoid a novel called The Light That Failed.  I wouldn&#8217;t really recommend starting with the poems, either.  Some of them are actually good, but I wouldn&#8217;t say that poetry was Kipling&#8217;s strength as a writer.  The poems don&#8217;t show him at his most likable, either &#8211; I think there was something about the process of fiction writing, at least when he was genuinely invested in it, that softened and tempered the harsher aspects of his personality.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry about writing such a long response, but it always makes me ridiculously happy when people are willing to give Kipling a chance.</p>
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