I was just thinking about the Bechdel test recently while I was reading Gregory Maguire’s Wicked, because that book totally passes the test.

That is a fantastic Margaret Atwood quote, just wanted to say.

I was just telling Ana on twitter that the show seemed very questionable when it comes to female characters, but then I have only watched the first season. I’m glad to hear things get better. I do enjoy the show so much, but when I had to tell Ana about it made me stop and question whether I *should* be enjoying it. That is the difficulty about such tests: drawing the line between knowing something is happening in a show and feeling guilty about it. The comments really helped me put things into perspective a bit more.

I like that you think my example passes, because I want it to pass, but I am not immune to the point other commenters have made that, hey, why should the opponent have to be a guy?

That’s an excellent passage by Margaret Atwood.

Hahahaha, yeah, well, I do talk about men sometimes with my girl friends, but not nearly as much as they do in the moviez. We have other things to be talking about!

I know, it’s an interesting lens to use when looking at pop culture. I remember being appalled when I first heard of the test and went through all my DVDs to see how many of them would pass. It really was shockingly few of them.

The pre-coffee time is such a dangerous time! So little makes me smile before coffee happens! :p

Oh God I cannot even quantify the strength of my desire for more Firefly. That needs to happen.

Me too! And now that they are saying they’re going to revive Arrested Development after five years off the air, I have all this fresh hope for Firefly’s return that I know is totally irrational.

I agree! I talk with my friends at work every day about a wide variety of topics! Including feelings! (my real favorite topic of conversation) Oo, but, does it count if I’m talking about pro football, does that count as talking about men, if all the players are men? Ruh-roh!