Comments on: The Pill, Bernard Asbell; or, MARGARET SANGER WAS DOING IT WITH HAVELOCK ELLIS https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/ before I read the middle Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Gin Jenny https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-16969 Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:03:17 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-16969 In reply to Hannah.

Sadly, I know about all their crazy ideas. But I suppose that what I think about Sanger is that her legacy isn’t eugenics; it’s Planned Parenthood, a really good and important organization that the country really, really needs. She had shitty ideas but she produced something really great. And for Ellis, eh, all the early sex researchers got a lot of stuff terribly wrong, and still, they had to happen before all the rest could follow. You know?

]]> By: Hannah https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-16968 Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:55:40 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-16968 I’m doing research on both of these individuals, and I have to say I am less impressed by their achievements. Have you read “The Pivot of Civilization” by Sanger? Or “Men and Women” by Ellis? That’s some disturbing stuff right there. I suspect you might already be aware of this, but one of Sanger’s main rationales for birth control was “racial betterment.” Look it up. Ellis promoted theories of scientific misogyny. In “Man and Woman” he looked at a pool of 50 students, 25 male, 25 female, to draw conclusions of female intellectual inferiority. I’m no statistician, but that’s got to be the worst imitation of science I’ve ever heard of. Also, Sanger supported compulsory sterilization of the “unfit”: “While I personally believe in the sterilization of the feeble-minded, the insane and syphilitic, I have not been able to discover that these measures are more than superficial deterrents when applied to the constantly growing stream of the unfit…” (Sanger, “Birth Control Review,” 1919)

]]> By: Care https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15660 Wed, 24 Jul 2013 02:46:49 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15660 I want to read this book. Thank you.

]]> By: J.G. https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15629 Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:57:17 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15629 Totally cool post about lots of stuff I never knew. Thanks for making me say, “Wait, WHAT?” I love saying that when there’s a good reason!

(And let me know if you need any help giving away all that money! I’d be really good at that.)

]]> By: Jeane https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15624 Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:41:25 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15624 In reply to Gin Jenny.

Yes! It’s very well-done. In fact, it’s so close in spirit to the book that was the source, I recognized parts of the storyline before realizing why. I had to look back on my own book blog to find where I’d read it, and then I knew it was the same thing (the book’s title is different, so I was confused at first on that.

]]> By: Gin Jenny https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15611 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:37:43 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15611 In reply to The Literary Omnivore.

Isn’t it? Way to go, rich lady!

]]> By: Gin Jenny https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15610 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:27:22 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15610 In reply to NWK (@MumsyNancy).

Oh, that’s awful. That’s an awful story.

You might exist! You wanted four kids, maybe your mother would have also.

]]> By: Gin Jenny https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15609 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:26:14 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15609 In reply to Ana @ things mean a lot.

Right? Right? Margaret Sanger and Havelock Ellis, having a beautiful romance. (Or well, no, not really. But still, it is cool and insane.)

]]> By: Gin Jenny https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15608 Thu, 18 Jul 2013 02:25:29 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15608 In reply to Jeane.

Aaaaa, I have to watch that. Are you enjoying it? Everyone talks about how great it is.

]]> By: The Literary Omnivore https://readingtheend.com/2013/07/17/review-the-pill-bernard-asbell-or-margaret-sanger-was-doing-it-with-havelock-ellis/#comment-15607 Wed, 17 Jul 2013 23:37:21 +0000 http://readingtheend.com/?p=4563#comment-15607 I had no idea that was how the pill was invented! That’s brilliant!

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