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	Comments on: Review: Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are, Frans de Waal	</title>
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		By: Katie @ Doing Dewey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie @ Doing Dewey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2016 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This has been on my kindle since it came out and I&#039;ve just not made time for it yet. I&#039;m glad to hear it was good and appreciate the reminder to pick it up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been on my kindle since it came out and I&#8217;ve just not made time for it yet. I&#8217;m glad to hear it was good and appreciate the reminder to pick it up!</p>
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		By: Sharon Tomasulo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Tomasulo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2016/09/02/review-are-we-smart-enough-to-know-how-smart-animals-are-frans-de-waal/#comment-30380&quot;&gt;Jeane Nevarez&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m reading this now! I just wanted to say that it is, as I had suspected, a bit woo about the meaning of intelligence and the transcendence of communing with animals, but you&#039;re absolutely right, the octopus stuff is so great! I really, truly love octopuses.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m reading this now! I just wanted to say that it is, as I had suspected, a bit woo about the meaning of intelligence and the transcendence of communing with animals, but you&#8217;re absolutely right, the octopus stuff is so great! I really, truly love octopuses.</p>
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		By: Stefanie@SoManyBooks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stefanie@SoManyBooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am late to the party on this one

The book sounds like something I would love. I am certain animals are all super smart in their own context and humans make a big mistake in testing intelligence based on human standards and then if/when animals fail saying it&#039;s because they lack intelligence. I think the main difference between us and the rest of the animal world is our hubris. 

I love octopuses! They are so fascinating. I think they will make fine overlords.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am late to the party on this one</p>
<p>The book sounds like something I would love. I am certain animals are all super smart in their own context and humans make a big mistake in testing intelligence based on human standards and then if/when animals fail saying it&#8217;s because they lack intelligence. I think the main difference between us and the rest of the animal world is our hubris. </p>
<p>I love octopuses! They are so fascinating. I think they will make fine overlords.</p>
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		By: Charlie (The Worm Hole)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie (The Worm Hole)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;The most common limitation on tests of animal cognition is not animal, but human, intelligence.&#039; - Yes, such an important thing to remember.

I think it&#039;d be difficult to say what separates us. It seems we haven&#039;t got the tests right yet, and, in this regard, who knows, maybe animals are far more intelligent but get bored with our tests. No problem with octopuses being smart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The most common limitation on tests of animal cognition is not animal, but human, intelligence.&#8217; &#8211; Yes, such an important thing to remember.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;d be difficult to say what separates us. It seems we haven&#8217;t got the tests right yet, and, in this regard, who knows, maybe animals are far more intelligent but get bored with our tests. No problem with octopuses being smart.</p>
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		By: ElizabethNeedMoreShelves		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ElizabethNeedMoreShelves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I took a class on animal behavior &#038; cognition in college &#038; it freaked me right the heck out. For real, we are about 22 years away from octopus overlords, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a class on animal behavior &amp; cognition in college &amp; it freaked me right the heck out. For real, we are about 22 years away from octopus overlords, I think.</p>
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		By: Naomi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naomi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no concerns about them taking over the world - in fact, I think that maybe they should!]]></description>
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		By: Heather		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2016 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a fan of long titles, so I&#039;m already down with this book purely based on that. 

I personally hope there&#039;s an animal uprising one day - we&#039;ve treated them pretty shittily over an incredibly long period of time and they deserve to get their revenge. I just hope it happens after I&#039;ve gone. 
A tv show I binged on last year, &#039;Zoo&#039;, was all about this exact sort of thing (it&#039;s based on a James Patterson novel). Basically all the animals get super smart and start working together to take down humans. I loved it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fan of long titles, so I&#8217;m already down with this book purely based on that. </p>
<p>I personally hope there&#8217;s an animal uprising one day &#8211; we&#8217;ve treated them pretty shittily over an incredibly long period of time and they deserve to get their revenge. I just hope it happens after I&#8217;ve gone.<br />
A tv show I binged on last year, &#8216;Zoo&#8217;, was all about this exact sort of thing (it&#8217;s based on a James Patterson novel). Basically all the animals get super smart and start working together to take down humans. I loved it.</p>
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		By: Kim Aippersbach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kim Aippersbach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2016 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://readingtheend.com/2016/09/02/review-are-we-smart-enough-to-know-how-smart-animals-are-frans-de-waal/#comment-30376&quot;&gt;Jenny @ Reading the End&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha ha ha ha, the macaque who cried &quot;snake&quot;! It&#039;s not just fiction, it&#039;s a folktale!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2016/09/02/review-are-we-smart-enough-to-know-how-smart-animals-are-frans-de-waal/#comment-30376">Jenny @ Reading the End</a>.</p>
<p>Ha ha ha ha, the macaque who cried &#8220;snake&#8221;! It&#8217;s not just fiction, it&#8217;s a folktale!</p>
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		By: Kristen M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do like Frans de Waal and it&#039;s been ages since I read anything about animal behavior or intelligence so I should grab this one. Have I ever told you that I took animal behavior courses in college and did two research projects on captive animal behavior (sea otters!)? Animals are amazing and I love them all and think they are all wonderful in their own ways, some far more than boring old people. Tonight, Z actually asked why we thought dolphins had not attempted to build bombs to destroy us all. We talked about opposable thumbs, ill will, and many other things. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like Frans de Waal and it&#8217;s been ages since I read anything about animal behavior or intelligence so I should grab this one. Have I ever told you that I took animal behavior courses in college and did two research projects on captive animal behavior (sea otters!)? Animals are amazing and I love them all and think they are all wonderful in their own ways, some far more than boring old people. Tonight, Z actually asked why we thought dolphins had not attempted to build bombs to destroy us all. We talked about opposable thumbs, ill will, and many other things. 🙂</p>
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		By: glynis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glynis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2016 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen this book before, and decided not to read it based entirely on the janky title. I may need to rescind that judgement. 

I have a morbid dread of octopuses, and of cephalopods in general. Octopus and squid are WAY too smart, and they are EVIL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen this book before, and decided not to read it based entirely on the janky title. I may need to rescind that judgement. </p>
<p>I have a morbid dread of octopuses, and of cephalopods in general. Octopus and squid are WAY too smart, and they are EVIL.</p>
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