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		<title>A question about the Bechdel Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Misc.]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[a call for clarifying corollaries]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bechdel Test]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[do you notice that I described the Firefly women in exactly the same words used by their shipmates to describe them? yeah THAT WAS ON PURPOSE]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[does this question matter? not at all; why do you ask?]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[I am mainly posting this question because my favorite female friendship on TV is on a break (A BREAK. NOT OVER.) and I want the show to continue passing the Bechdel Test]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[I repeat: my favorite female friendship on TV is absolutely NOT OVER WHATSOEVER and will assuredly reconvene as time goes by]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[I want them to be friends again so much that I wouldn't find cheesy any plotline designed to get them back together including the thing of getting stuck in an elevator together]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>So the Bechdel Test &#8211; invented by Alison Bechdel &#8211; critiques the dearth of primary female characters with any degree of interiority in teh moviez, and it consists of three criteria: The show/book/film whatever 1) has two female characters who 2) have a conversation about 3) something other than a man. Fewer films/shows than you&#8217;d think pass this test, including many that I love. Like, Firefly? Almost none (if any?) of the episodes pass the test. Kaylee and Inara are friends, but they almost always are talking about Simon or Inara&#8217;s clients. Zoe is terse and spends all her time&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2011/09/28/a-question-about-the-bechdel-test/">A question about the Bechdel Test</a> appeared first on <a href="https://readingtheend.com">Reading the End</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Bechdel Test &#8211; invented by Alison Bechdel &#8211; critiques the dearth of primary female characters with any degree of interiority in teh moviez, and it consists of three criteria:</p>
<p>The show/book/film whatever</p>
<p>1) has two female characters who<br />
2) have a conversation about<br />
3) something other than a man.</p>
<p>Fewer films/shows than you&#8217;d think pass this test, including many that I love. Like, <em>Firefly</em>? Almost none (if any?) of the episodes pass the test. Kaylee and Inara are friends, but they almost always are talking about Simon or Inara&#8217;s clients. Zoe is terse and spends all her time with Mal and Wash, and River is crazy and spends all her time with Simon.</p>
<p>The cartoon that invented the <a href="http://dykestowatchoutfor.com/the-rule" target="_blank">Bechdel Test</a> says that <em>Alien</em> passes the test because two women talk to each other about an alien. In this example, the alien is a problem the women are trying to solve (I assume? I&#8217;ve never seen it). So that made me wonder, can something pass the Bechdel Test if two women are talking about a man, but in a capacity wholly unrelated to any sort of romance-type situation? Like what if Leslie from <em>Parks and Recreation</em> runs for City Council, and her opponent is a dude, and she and Ann Perkins get together to talk about campaign strategy to defeat the opponent? If that was the only conversation she and Ann had in that episode, would it mean that that episode didn&#8217;t pass the Bechdel Test? Cause I feel like that example still lives up to the spirit of the Bechdel Test. The opponent in this example functions like the alien in <em>Alien</em>: an obstacle to the (non-romantic) aspirations of the two characters.</p>
<p>Thoughts? And if you think that this imaginary episode of <em>Parks and Rec</em> would qualify, do you think it would still qualify if the opponent in question were someone who used to date Ann?</p>
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