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		<category><![CDATA[casual dum which I confess I had forgotten about if I ever knew it]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading a lot of nonfiction this summer. It&#8217;s been fun, but I am also a little starved for fiction, and I have a massive backlist of books to investigate when I get home. Juliet Gardiner: The Thirties and Overpaid, Oversexed, and Over Here When I read Gardiner&#8217;s Wartime, I wished it had said more about the experience of being an American GI in England during World War II. Turns out the reason it didn&#8217;t is that Juliet Gardiner wrote a whole book about being an American GI in England during World War II. Overpaid, Oversexed, and Over&#8230;</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading a lot of nonfiction this summer. It&#8217;s been fun, but I am also a little starved for fiction, and I have a massive backlist of books to investigate when I get home.</p>
<p>Juliet Gardiner: <a href="http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/Titles/36086/the-thirties-juliet-gardiner-9780007240760" target="_blank"><em>The Thirties</em></a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=0CBYQFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FOverpaid-Oversexed-over-Here-American%2Fdp%2F1558594086&amp;rct=j&amp;q=%22over%20here%22%20gardiner%20abbeville&amp;ei=UddmTKHmO4P58AbbrsG3BA&amp;usg=AFQjCNHs3fHFylAdbO5YLX-OxbrUaQD6cA&amp;cad=rja" target="_blank"><em>Overpaid, Oversexed, and Over Here</em></a></p>
<p>When I read <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2010/07/17/review-wartime-britain-1939-1945-juliet-gardiner/" target="_blank">Gardiner&#8217;s <em>Wartime</em></a>, I wished it had said more about the experience of being an American GI in England during World War II. Turns out the reason it didn&#8217;t is that Juliet Gardiner wrote a whole book about being an American GI in England during World War II. <em>Overpaid, Oversexed, and Over Here</em> (the book in question), a short book with lots of pictures and excerpts from diaries, letters, and journals, held me over until <em>The Thirties</em> got in at the library.</p>
<p>At which point I&#8217;m afraid I was woefully disappointed. I gave up on <em>The Thirties</em> about a third of the way through. Perhaps my expectations were too high, or just aimed in the wrong direction. Gardiner writes a lot about labor and the dole and other bleak, depressing economic things, and I got bored. I persevered ages longer than I wanted to, because I had whined so much about the library not having the book when I wanted it.</p>
<p>William Harris: <a href="http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674032972" target="_blank"><em>Dreams and Experience in Classical Antiquity</em></a></p>
<p>Harris examines classical texts from Homer on forward to get a grip on what kind of dreams the Greeks and Romans had and what their dreams meant to them. He devotes a whole chapter to discussing what he calls &#8220;epiphany dreams,&#8221; dreams in which an authority figure shows up, gives a message to the dreamer, then leaves again. These appear to have been very common up until around the eleventh or twelfth century, at which point they declined precipitously. All very interesting.</p>
<p>A. D. Nuttall: <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=zlPVcUBkJZUC&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;dq=nuttall+%22stoic+in+love%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=Lt7BUUylIe&amp;sig=ojvT_7CwHjyCuwfqcdI6D-xShkM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=u9hmTPnEKcOC8gao6b2yBA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CBIQ6AEwAA" target="_blank"><em>The Stoic in Love</em></a> (essays) and <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CBIQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fyalepress.yale.edu%2Fyupbooks%2Fbook.asp%3Fisbn%3D9780300098402&amp;rct=j&amp;q=%22dead%20from%20the%20waist%20down%22%20nuttall&amp;ei=89hmTMXeNIO78gaElsWyBA&amp;usg=AFQjCNGz38cS9IbH2SfALxsGDjlzMC2PWg&amp;cad=rja" target="_blank"><em>Dead from the Waist Down</em></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be getting Nuttall&#8217;s last book, <em>Shakespeare the Thinker</em>, in the mail pretty soon. I got it because I want to be friends with Shakespeare again. I hate that we&#8217;re in a fight. But once it was already ordered, I started to worry that I wouldn&#8217;t care for Nuttall, so I went to the library and got a few of his other books. Y&#8217;all, as I was reading these books, I kept thinking that if A.D. Nuttall hadn&#8217;t died <em>tragically prematurely</em> of a heart attack in 2007, I would have move to whatever university he taught at and become his disciple.</p>
<p>Nuttall read Mods (roughly, that means classics) and English Literature at Oxford, and The Stoic in Love warmed the classics and English literature ventricles of my geeky little heart. There is an essay on Virgil&#8217;s use of the causal-but-simultaneous dum (generally translated as &#8220;while&#8221;) in the Aeneid, which, Nuttall argues, reveals a lot about Virgil&#8217;s perception of life-after-death. I also particularly liked the essay on <em>Hamlet</em> and the sources of its uncertainties in previous <em>Hamlet</em> stories as well as in Latin and Greek sources.</p>
<p><em>Dead from the Waist Down</em> was weird but entrancing. Nuttall writes about sexuality and scholarship in literature and life, taking as his subjects two real scholars (one, Isaac Casaubon, an early modern, and one, Mark Pattison, a contemporary of George Eliot) and the fictional Mr. Casaubon from <em>Middlemarch</em>. Fortunately the half of <em>Middlemarch</em> that I read was sufficient to carry me through this with a reasonable measure of comprehension, and Nuttall doesn&#8217;t assume the reader&#8217;s familiarity with the other two dudes. He also discusses three things I did not get enough of during college: Robert Browning, Tom Stoppard, and image clusters. In particular I appreciated his compliments to the (wonderful) Stoppard play <em>Invention of Love</em>: &#8220;It is a work of breathtaking brilliance&#8230;.knockabout comedy laced with intense pathos,&#8221; etc.</p>
<blockquote><p>The word [scholarly], I think, connotes a quality of completeness: at the lowest level, complete literacy (never a colon where a comma should be); complete, though not redundant documentation; complete accuracy even with reference to matters not crucial to the main argument, and, together with all this, a sense that the writer&#8217;s knowledge of material at the fringe of the thesis is as sound as his or her knowledge of the core material.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly what I like in Nuttall, although he could just be giving the impression of being sound without really being, and I do not know enough to be sure. Though just as I was contemplating flinging myself in the river so that Nuttall could teach me classics in heaven, he said:</p>
<blockquote><p>It will be said that I am describing the literary canon, which has been shown to be an instrument of oppression. I would have had none of that then and I will have none of it now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Come on, dude. At least give some respect to the arguments of the people who are completely unrepresented in and disempowered by the literary canon. You are part of a privileged group, and the literary canon hasn&#8217;t been an instrument of oppressing you. Hrmph. But apart from this, I think A.D. Nuttall is very, very brilliant and interesting. He talked briefly about a Greek writer called Diogenes Laertius, who wrote gossipy, bitchy lives of philosophers and bad poets, so y&#8217;all should expect to be hearing from me pretty soon about that.</p>
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