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		<title>Reading the End Bookcast, Ep.14: Scott McCloud&#8217;s Understanding Comics and Neil Gaiman&#8217;s Sandman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This week on the Reading the End Bookcast, we welcome special guest star Julia of The Card Catalog, and recurring guest star Randon, as we talk about comics once again! On the docket this time are Scott McCloud&#8217;s wonderful nonfiction book Understanding Comics (affiliate links: Amazon, B&#38;N, Book Depository) and Neil Gaiman&#8217;s foundational comic book Sandman. You can listen to the podcast in the embedded player below or download the file directly to take with you on the go. Episode 14 Or if you wish, you can find us on iTunes (and if you enjoy the podcast, give us a&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2014/01/15/reading-the-end-bookcast-ep-14-scott-mcclouds-understanding-comics-and-neil-gaimans-sandman/">Reading the End Bookcast, Ep.14: Scott McCloud&#8217;s Understanding Comics and Neil Gaiman&#8217;s Sandman</a> appeared first on <a href="https://readingtheend.com">Reading the End</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week on the Reading the End Bookcast, we welcome special guest star Julia of <a href="http://juliaem.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Card Catalog</a>, and recurring guest star Randon, as we talk about comics once again! On the docket this time are Scott McCloud&#8217;s wonderful nonfiction book <em>Understanding Comics</em> (affiliate links: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006097625X/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=006097625X&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=httpreadingtc-20" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Amazon</a>, <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/understanding-comics-scott-mccloud/1101332742?ean=9780060976255" target="_blank" rel="noopener">B&amp;N</a>, <a href="http://www.bookdepository.com/Understanding-Comics-Scott-McCloud/9780060976255?a_aid=readingtheend">Book Depository</a>) and Neil Gaiman&#8217;s foundational comic book <em>Sandman.</em> You can listen to the podcast in the embedded player below or download the file directly to take with you on the go.</p>
<p><a href="http://traffic.libsyn.com/readingtheend/Episode_14_-_Scott_McClouds_Understanding_Comics_and_Neil_Gaimans_Sandman.mp3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Episode 14</a></p>
<p>Or if you wish, you can <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/reading-the-end/id666502883" target="_blank" rel="noopener">find us on iTunes</a> (and if you enjoy the podcast, give us a good rating! We appreciate it very very much).</p>
<p>Here are the contents of the podcast if you’d like to skip around:</p>
<p><strong>Starting at 1:08:</strong> We discuss <em>Understanding Comics</em> and the ways it helped us or didn&#8217;t help us. <a href="http://thevisualcommunicationguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Reviews_UnderstandingComics_PicturePlane.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Here&#8217;s</a> the more in-depth &#8220;picture plane&#8221;, if you want to see what we&#8217;re talking about. If you&#8217;re interested in reading the interview with Brian Vaughn that I mention, head over to <a href="http://www.avclub.com/article/isagai-and-iy-the-last-man-iwriter-brian-k-vaughan-72230" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the AV Club</a> and check it out.</p>
<p><strong>Starting somewhere between 14:00 and 15:00 but it&#8217;s tough to say exactly where because my segue is JUST SO SMOOTH:</strong> The discussion of <em>Sandman: Overture</em> and a few issues of classic <em>Sandman</em> commences. If you&#8217;re interested in knowing which issues I&#8217;d have chosen given my druthers, I&#8217;d have selected &#8220;The Sound of Her Wings&#8221; (still); &#8220;Calliope&#8221;; &#8220;The Parliament of Rooks&#8221;; &#8220;A Tale of Two Cities&#8221;; and that one issue from &#8220;The Wake&#8221; where Hob Gadling is at the Renaissance Festival complaining about how the real Renaissance had a lot more poop and plague everywhere. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2am0oO-D2Q&amp;list=TL5LZjX1fmulv8BjFdho5wAk1sqZ_wZsHl" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Here</a> is the Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem classic &#8220;Don&#8217;t Blame the Dynamite.&#8221; They come up in the <em>Sandman</em> conversation, but mainly I just want you to have that.</p>
<p><strong>16:05:</strong> The Hugo and Nebula Awards are not the same thing. In any case, neither of those awards is the one that was won by Neil Gaiman&#8217;s <em>Sandman</em> issue &#8220;A Midsummer Night&#8217;s Dream.&#8221; That issue won a World Fantasy Award. I was just completely wrong about this. I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
<p><strong>34:39:</strong> Randon is such a guy right here.</p>
<p><strong>38:05:</strong> Public service announcement: Joseph Gordon-Levitt is on board to produce the <em>Sandman</em> movie. I did not really know that this was in his area of interest, because I didn&#8217;t see any of those Batman movies.</p>
<p><strong>40:12:</strong> Here are the Lil Endless, as delightful as ever they were:</p>
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<p><strong>41:14:</strong> For next time, Whiskey Jenny has recommended that we read Eleanor Catton&#8217;s award-winning novel <em>The Luminaries. </em>Woohoo! Enormously long book alert! I am not the only one who picks tremendously long books!</p>
<p><strong>Starting at 42:56:</strong> Closing remarks and outro. I am a jerk and did not mention Randon in the outro. I&#8217;m the worst. We love having Randon on the podcast too! Obviously! But he feels less like a guest because he&#8217;s always there when we record a podcast. And what with one thing and another, I forgot to thank him for joining us. I&#8217;m sorry, Randon! Thanks for joining us for this podcast!</p>
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</strong>Producer: Captain Hammer<br />
Photo credit: The Illustrious Annalee<br />
Song is by Jeff MacDougall and comes from <a href="http://www.musicalley.com/music/listeners/artistdetails.php?BandHash=725d6fdeb94b059cf9d91021716ccccb" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2014/01/15/reading-the-end-bookcast-ep-14-scott-mcclouds-understanding-comics-and-neil-gaimans-sandman/">Reading the End Bookcast, Ep.14: Scott McCloud&#8217;s Understanding Comics and Neil Gaiman&#8217;s Sandman</a> appeared first on <a href="https://readingtheend.com">Reading the End</a>.</p>
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		<title>Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gin Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>In Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud writes about the structure, creation, history, and vocabulary (among other things!) of comics.  He does it, of course, in graphic novel form, with a little cartoon Scott McCloud telling us what is going on.  I love this because when he talks about a technique that graphic novels use, voila, he can show it to us too!  The book never becomes boring, which is partly down to the fact that it’s an interesting topic, but also partly because the form allows a lot of room for humor.  (I was going to write “and whimsy”, but I&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://readingtheend.com/2009/06/22/understanding-comics-scott-mccloud/">Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud</a> appeared first on <a href="https://readingtheend.com">Reading the End</a>.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em>Understanding Comics</em>, Scott McCloud writes about the structure, creation, history, and vocabulary (among other things!) of comics.  He does it, of course, in graphic novel form, with a little cartoon Scott McCloud telling us what is going on.  I love this because when he talks about a technique that graphic novels use, <em>voila</em>, he can show it to us too!  The book never becomes boring, which is partly down to the fact that it’s an interesting topic, but also partly because the form allows a lot of room for humor.  (I was going to write “and whimsy”, but I hate that damn word.  Though I like Peter Wimsey.)</p>
<p>I loved the section about the different transitions between panels.  Scott McCloud lists six categories of transitions between panels, and then does an analysis of how often different comic artists use each different transition.  He makes bar graphs.  I was so intrigued by the differences between how often American &amp; European artists used each transition type, and how often Japanese artists did.  McCloud shows examples of each transition, and although he gives them a number, he keeps reminding you which type is which (through pictures!).  Fantastic.</p>
<p>My one little gripe was with the section on the (sometimes uneasy) marriage of words and pictures.  I am only griping about it because to me, the combination of words and pictures provides the most amazing and fascinating and incredible possibilities for comics.  (I like words.)  I just looked back at it, and that chapter is just as comprehensive as the transitions chapter; when I was reading it, I felt like there weren’t nearly enough cool examples.  I still feel like that actually, but you may want to consider the possibility that there are plenty of examples and I am just insatiable and can never have enough.</p>
<p>In other news, Scott McCloud referenced a painting of Magritte’s (<a href="http://www.artinthepicture.com/paintings/Rene_Magritte/This-Is-Not-A-Pipe/" target="_blank">&#8220;This is not a pipe&#8221;</a>), which caused me to tell my sister “I really like Magritte,” which caused me to have to get up and bring her a book about Magritte because she couldn’t remember who he was.  And this in turn led us to find this painting, which is rather graphic so you&#8217;ve been warned, <a href="http://www.usc.edu/schools/annenberg/asc/projects/comm544/library/images/739.html" target="_blank">“The Rape”</a>, which pleased me so much that I traveled back in time and thanked Magritte <a href="http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=BurLiPr.sgm&amp;images=images/modeng&amp;data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&amp;tag=public&amp;part=2&amp;division=div1" target="_blank">in pretty and fluent French</a> for his getting a point about what it is like being a woman that people often seem to miss.</p>
<p>(No, you may not borrow my time machine.  I have destroyed it, along with all copies of the plans.  V. dangerous to have such a thing around the house.)</p>
<p>(I just found a woman called Eunice Golden who says she created (warning, this is fairly graphic too) <a href="http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/eascfa/feminist_art_base/gallery/eunicegolden.php?i=1033" target="_blank">this piece of art</a> &#8220;in defiance of censorship (which I consider to be a rape of the mind), and as a response to Magritte&#8217;s mutilation of the female body in &#8216;Le Viol&#8217;.&#8221;  Am I misunderstanding her completely, or is she misunderstanding Magritte completely?  Or, possibly, am <em>I</em> misunderstanding Magritte?)</p>
<p>I have strayed from the Scott McCloud point.  I liked <em>Understanding Comics</em>!  I have <em>Making Comics</em> out of the library, and I want to get <em>Reinventing Comics</em> as well!  Other views besides mine:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thingsmeanalot.com/2008/12/understanding-comics-by-scott-mccloud.html" target="_blank">Nymeth at Things Mean a Lot</a><br />
<a href="http://sophisticateddorkiness.com/2009/06/09/review-understanding-comics/" target="_blank">Kim at Sophisticated Dorkiness</a><br />
<a href="http://1330v.blogspot.com/2008/07/art-of-graphic-novels.html" target="_blank">1330V</a><br />
<a href="http://shananaginsbooks.wordpress.com/2009/06/30/june-graphic-novel-reviews-and-a-note-about-infinite-jest/" target="_blank">Shananagins</a><br />
<a href="http://reviews.rebeccareid.com/understanding-comics-by-scott-mccloud/" target="_blank">Rebecca Reads</a></p>
<p>Let me know if I missed yours!</p>
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